DOMA & CA Prop 8 #SMACKDOWN2013!!

I  tolerate (or ignore)  many of my  friends & family’s posts on   social media  about religion and  politics…  I disagree with most of them..…sometimes I comment , sometimes I play devil’s advocate (is there a  devil??)…. Sometimes I even fire back with sarcasm or  a SMH or  eye-roll or an outright call out on the carpet  depending on the topic……… so those that   disagree with this please feel  free to do any of  the same……

This here’s  my blog …Like it-  great,  disagree – no problem, comment, share it, unsubscribe, hate me forever, love me more…… whatever you like…  It’s me  saying what I’m thinking/feeling/want known …. and anyone who really , truly knows me, I’m not afraid to fight…. I do all that I  can to  avoid conflict until it is absolutely  necessary,  I  encourage lively discussion, debate and controversial topics ( My wife says I like  to  debate for the sake of  debating….and it’s true… I do)  but those are much different than conflict to me.  Once I choose to be in an  actual conflict  or even  at times a conflagration ..I don’t stop until victory is  obtained!!!

Let’s  start with some definitions so the  last statement I made   makes sense and is  in  context….

Conflict: 

As a  verb:  to come into collision or disagreement; be contradictory, at variance, or in opposition; clash

As a noun:  a fight, battle, or struggle, especially a prolonged struggle; strife.

Controversy:

a prolonged public dispute, debate, or contention; disputation concerning a matter of opinion.

In  my  life I’ve  experienced  a LOT of   both…  we all do…on nearly daily basis… we live in   controversial  time ( has there ever been a time since the spoken word where times weren’t controversial??)   with a   lot of  conflict  internally and externally to ourselves,  our communities, our  religions, our counties, states,  countries and more!!!!  Social media   and the media in  general  fan  the flames of  both – Controversy and  Conflict….…. We can’t go back to the three channels and quality reporting… we’ve already  gone all  the way down the  “slippery slope”. There’s  good that comes from it too, don’t get me wrong.  I’m a  fan of social media….. but I also have a very open mind… those with closed minds  can’t handle  social  media,  media in general in the modern world…. which   brings us back to the topic o’ the day…….  Controversial  topics……today the  Supreme Court of the United States of America made  2  very  wise and RIGHT decisions… and  thank GAWD  they have the final  say….. (yeah right if you  believe that, give me a call I have  a  bridge I wanna  sell ya) ..I’m sure the  religious  fanatics  and yes if you oppose  same sex marriage I consider you,  most likely, a  religious fanatic.  That doesn’t mean that I don’t  still like you, love you  or  respect your right to your opinion, but I call a spade a spade…you imposing your religious beliefs on someone else  is, to me a  form of fanaticism, not too different  to me  than blowing yourself up in the name of your  religion, or protesting  a military  funeral because you are against people being gay  ‘cause yeah  THAT  makes sense..NOT )  just for the  record:

Fanatic:

a person whose enthusiasm or zeal for something is extreme or beyond normal limits

I’m a nature and bird  Fanatic… I’m a Nascar and racing in general  Fanatic   do those  things cause me some internal conflict? You betcha…..  that’s life…we’re all  fanatics about some things and   sometimes they conflict….

Ok  this  post isn’t about  religion – that’s  way toooooo HUMONGOUS  of a topic  for the  entire Internet or even for the WORLD ……… this post also is not about  politics….. (many of you probably don’t realize that DOMA was  signed into law by  Clinton…. Though it was strongly supported by Republicans and many Democrats)   oh  now  I’ve done it….. I said   it …DOMA….DOMA  DOMA……..   and  guess  what CA PROP 8…. CA PROP 8….. CA PROP 8…. CA PROP 8….. screw  both legislative embarassments to our  country!

In case you  don’t know   DOMA  is   “The Defense of Marriage Act” which  defines  Marriage as  only between a man and a  woman…. Though that man or woman can  cheat and have affairs and  still be President etc….   it doesn’t  say anything about the sanctity of  the institution ….. it’s a  stupid act  period  in my opinion but  it’s   there……  But part of that  changed today!!!

SCOTUS  in a 5-4 (controversial!)  vote –  struck down  the section of   DOMA that called for equal protection  under the constitution  – The case looked at  whether the federal government can deny tax, health and pension benefits to same-sex couples in states where they can legally marry.  Specifically they   said section 3 was  unconstitutional  HOORAY!!! Here’s  the part:  Section 3. Definition of marriage

“In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word ‘marriage’ means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word ‘spouse’ refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.”

They didn’t  actually do anything   other  than   hold up   what the lower courts already said and  wasted  a lot of  taxpayer money on  what I consider to be a  dumb-ass  debate…. But it’s GONE…..Adios, Au Revoir,  see ya later alligator….  GTFO……

And  California’s Prop 8  – Dismissed  for  being   (excuse my language)   fucktarded…..  (sorry  that’s the word I have for  Prop 8)…. It was misleading and  spiteful and  promoted hate…..  voting yes  for  prop 8  meant you were saying  NO  to  gay marriage….  Let’s  play semantics and fine print and  bullshit….. but whatever it’s    the people’s right to vote…. And to understand what they are voting for ( even though they’d already  passed a law making   same sex marriage legal) ….I find it very, very hard to believe that in  California   52% of people are  against gay marriage…     but  that no longer matters 🙂 …. The SCOTUS  dismissed the case…. The lower (Federal) court’s ruling that the   whole proposition was unconstitutional stands  woo hoo!!!!!

So for any of my  friends who live in Cali or  have been  discriminated against for  being  in a  same sex marriage  –    today is a  great day for you and  a  great  step  for America.  This is  just the beginning  though …. There are only 14  states that recognize same sex marriage….. the other 36  states  need to get on the rainbow striped reality bus…..

A bill known as the Respect for Marriage Act is working its way through Congress and would repeal DOMA – Get  behind it…..get real….  Live and let live…  if people love, let them love….   Who doesn’t love,  love??  Do you  drive 55?   Do you follow  every single letter of the  Bible, the Torah, the  Koran, the book of  Mormon, the Necronomicon?  ( I have  a copy of each except the  Torah and Koran, and I’d like to get copies of those too)….if you say yes then not only are you a fanatic you’re also a liar……   you use whatever you “need”  to  make your point at the time…. Each of those books  has great  things in them…there are also a lot of other  great books out there… sorry I’m slipping in  and out of politics and religion…. When my point is  really very , very, very  simple and  can be summed up in two words my Aunt shared with me…..One Love…. and  something my Momma  taught me well  ( that I still have a   hard time with)  MYOB …. Live and let live…  to each their own,  whatever floats your boat, trips your trigger, blows your skirt up – no matter if it’s a man or  a woman in the skirt!!!

Congrats  to all my LBGT Friends and  family !!! I Love you and wish you all the very  best the same as I wish for everyone and everything….even the Rat my wife wants me to kill that I refuse to do…though I do  occasionally kill  fish  and  game  but I eat them…… Oh snap there’s  more internal conflict….grrrreat……

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As always – Stay Safe, Be Kind, Keep the Park Clean, Pay it forward, Make a Difference and One Love
~Mikey

 

 

 

8 thoughts on “DOMA & CA Prop 8 #SMACKDOWN2013!!

  1. First let me just say you have a right to your views, however I disagree with them. But, I still like you Mike! 🙂 I think what is being lost in all of this is the terminology. I guess you could say I am one of those crazy religious people that is against “gay marriage”. I am not trying to ram my religion down anyone’s throat. But what people don’t seem to realize is that marriage was and is a union ordained by God. I don’t have a problem with people making their own decisions on who to love. That is between them and God. I don’t have to speak for anyone but myself when I stand before God. So with that being said….I don’t have a problem with people being in a “union” of the same sex..It is the word marriage that seems to be the issue with a lot of folks.
    If marriage was/is ordained by God, how can by the definition two people of the same sex be married? You said …“In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word ‘marriage’ means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word ‘spouse’ refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.” This IS because the United States was founded on Christianity. People came over here on boats, so that they could practice Christianity without persecution.
    So with all that being said, why do people of the same sex even want to be “married”? Especially if it a “Christian” thing. Well, I know it all boils down to rights, money and insurance etc. I think what they really want is “rights” that come to married people. Wouldn’t it make more sense to adjust the government laws to include “Civil Unions” than to try to change God’s law weather you believe in God or not?

    • I appreciate your reply Pam! I truly appreciate the fact that you read my blog at all! the “In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word ‘marriage’ means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word ‘spouse’ refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife.” is the part that was struck down by the supreme court as unconstitutional today. and I beleive that is right and just… it’s not the place of the Government to define it based on religious beliefs.. Marriage isn’t only a Christian institution…people have been “married” since before Christ was even born…. the US may have been founded by people who were Christian, but times have changed since then, and those men and women had the foresight to make sure they didn’t persecute others as they were persecuted….. To me, to put the word marriage as strictly “Christian” is unconstitutional…
      If I may …here’s the first bit of the Declaration of Independence: “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

      I don’t see anything about only Christianity in there….

      nor in the Constitution, just the opposite in fact the 1st amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

      then we get into the whole separation of church and state LOL…… Like I said I wasn’t wanting to be political or religious …. I just personally feel that anyone who wants to be married should be allowed to marry in their own faith or lack thereof…. and that people who condemn them or deny them that are denying them their happiness. I completely respect your rights to your opinions and I still like you too 🙂

  2. Great post Mike. My nephew is gay, so are many of my friends. I believe that all gay couples should be equal….should have the exact same benefits as all heterosexual couples. However, Marriage is not one of them. Marriage is a bond between a man and a woman. Not that many people stay married these days. I still believe in a Civil Union for gay couples, but marriage, nope. It’s all in the wording. Marriage is a sacrament to most people of faith. A civil union is more of a meet you half way term. I believe all gays should be able to have all rights, as do heterosexuals. Take away the body genitals, and what is left? LOVE. Love, between one person and the other. But I strongly disagree with same sex marriage. Keep it a Civil Union, same rewards, just not in the wording of marriage. My thoughts.

  3. As far as I’m concerned “marriage” is the union of two people that love each other. And just because anatomically they might not be a male and female, hormonally they are and they’re in love as a man and woman. They should have the same rights as any other married couple and they’re probably going to stay married and be more committed than a huge percentage of “straight” couples. I’m sorry and hope I don’t lose a lot of friends, but laws should be created and treated as laws, not from ideas in a book written years ago that isn’t current with the times. Just my opinion and I won’t say another word.

  4. Hi Mikey! I agree folks should have equal rights re: the one they love. The problem I have is not in the religious realm – I believe sexual acts that are not between a man/woman are against nature. However – there is a gray area there for me too – because we are not all born either 100% man nor 100% woman. I believe folks are “born homosexual” but I also believe that is due to the presence of sin in the world (oops, there’s the religious aspect). Not to be a fanatic – but what about the person who is “born” to be a pedofile or to lust after beasts? Do we give them their “rights” too? Thanx for your respectful replies to folks who disagree… I appreciate your lack of scarcasm. AND I also appreciate you, your general attitude and your love of nature and the creatures therein. Luv ya.

    • very good points Pam!! And it’s funny you mention that… I was talking with my wife about this last night (she’s a woman of faith/Christian)..and I was talking about the “ownership” of the word marriage and I told her no one should own the word …that I should be allowed to “marry” Duke (our dog) if I wanted and it’s none of the government’s business…but I don’t lust after beasts LOL it was just an example.. but I completely respect you and your beliefs. Even “online” it takes courage to stand up for what you believe in, and to disagree with other opinions and I truly do appreciate the conversation.
      One Love 🙂

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